No one speaks for anyone else, even if you are a member of the group. Frequently, you are not
Yeah this business with the SJ Shout Collective is beginning to bother me, because not only does it assume Hivemind and reinforce the idea that All X People Think The Same and keep up the stupid, oppressive ideal that a shared label means everything else matches up (I mean it's not like I vehemently loathe most polyamorous people at all-- oh, wait, that's exactly the case...), but it ostracises and isolates people who have that damn label and don't agree with the position, and teaches us/them/whoever that we're "bad queers" etc. Nothing like seeing a friend of mine during that racefail incident being called a RACE TRAITOR because she suggested maybe "don't dogpile this author and give her a chance to think about what you've said" and they couldn't call her a shitty oppressive white person on account of her not being white...
Coming around and levelling off-thread insults at me won't change my mind about anything
This is the other thing. Apparently objecting to a sudden slew of "FUCK YOU AND DIE" is a tone argument, refusing to engage is privileged, and basically doing anything other than grovelling apology (for which you will not be forgiven) is UNACCEPTABLE MORALLY. IDK about you but I was finished with unwinnable social situations by the time I finished high school, and if people put me in them now I make the executive decision to block their asses and never speak to or of them again.
[My tumblr block list is ... oh, roughly the length of a phone book]
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Date: 2012-03-26 05:51 am (UTC)Yeah this business with the SJ Shout Collective is beginning to bother me, because not only does it assume Hivemind and reinforce the idea that All X People Think The Same and keep up the stupid, oppressive ideal that a shared label means everything else matches up (I mean it's not like I vehemently loathe most polyamorous people at all-- oh, wait, that's exactly the case...), but it ostracises and isolates people who have that damn label and don't agree with the position, and teaches us/them/whoever that we're "bad queers" etc. Nothing like seeing a friend of mine during that racefail incident being called a RACE TRAITOR because she suggested maybe "don't dogpile this author and give her a chance to think about what you've said" and they couldn't call her a shitty oppressive white person on account of her not being white...
Coming around and levelling off-thread insults at me won't change my mind about anything
This is the other thing. Apparently objecting to a sudden slew of "FUCK YOU AND DIE" is a tone argument, refusing to engage is privileged, and basically doing anything other than grovelling apology (for which you will not be forgiven) is UNACCEPTABLE MORALLY. IDK about you but I was finished with unwinnable social situations by the time I finished high school, and if people put me in them now I make the executive decision to block their asses and never speak to or of them again.
[My tumblr block list is ... oh, roughly the length of a phone book]