1 - RAB has got to be Regulus Black. That would explain his death a bit better than the idea that he blundered in and then wanted out of the Death Eaters - and I will persist in believing that it's cover-your-ass-fu if it is, but I'm predisposed to believe that anyway.

2 - Both Snape and Voldemort have used Harry as a Horcrux. Voldemort is obvious - arguably the last relic of Gryffindor's that he could get his hands on. Snape - I think he did it possibly as late as the Sorting Feast when Harry's scar hurt. I'm quite sure that Rowling will, if she chooses to revisit that, state that either Snape was using Legilimency or else Voldemort was on Snape, but iirc, Harry's scar hurts when he makes eye contact with Snape, not when Quirrell looks at him, especially since Quirrell had run into him at the Leaky Cauldron and there was no problem.

I think Snape did that because he knew that Voldie might decide to kill him at any time - but Voldie wasn't going to kill Harry any time soon because he'd made Harry into his Horcrux. If he did kill Harry, in Snape's presence, Snape would be able to kill Voldie without risk because Voldie would be entirely human again. But in the mean time, it's the safest place for Snape to hide his own soul. That's pretty, um, cyafu of Rowling, but it does explain why Voldie's been so unable to kill Harry - despite giving all appearances to the attempt. The love thing - I stopped buying that a while back.

And a bonus question - if Malfoy really did have the Dark Mark, how did no one detect it. DARK Mark, DARK magic, Secrecy Sensor that detects DARK magic. Of course, I have to reread the bit about the opal necklace again to find out how Malfoy thought that it would get past Filch and the sensor, so that might explain it. But - right now, I'm calling inconsistency.

Also, she totally made Crabbe/Goyle canon. *snerks*

From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com


I think Voldie made Harry a Horcrux accidentally, with the whole baby attack thing. It would explain a lot, if Voldie had left a bit of his soul behind in Harry... Snape, I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Yah, if Malfoy had the Dark Mark, surely at least the other Slytherin kids would have seen it in the shower? They might well not have told, of course... but yah, wouldn't Filch have detected it? Yeesh.

Ah well... just have to wait for book 7 now. :P

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com


I have argued SO MUCH (in all three of my games) against underage Dark-marked students that I can't believe Rowling did that - not because omgmyegoishuge but because it just doesn't make sense. Added to the Filch thing, someone could have seen it in the shower, and we don't have evidence that all the Slytherins are going to be Death Eaters - though Rowling does like black and white.

And the Voldie thing - I don't quite see that happening by accident, but I like the idea of the Horcrux a lot better than "Oh, he tried to kill you and just left part of his soul." Or, maybe it was an accident (though Rowling is NOT a good enough writer to pull this off to anyone's complete satisfaction) and something about having just killed James and Lily and Lily's sacrifice for Harry meant that his soul was ready to tear, and the magic somehow backfired. But I can't see it as either really an accident or really intended, but perhaps the prophecy will mean that it was intended.

My brain hurts a lot when I try to think like Rowling so I'm going to stop now.

From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com


My brain hurts a lot when I try to think like Rowling so I'm going to stop now.

*laugh* See, the problem is you're thinking about it too hard... have several drinks, maybe some illegal pharmecuticals, relax, read the books, then try to think like her. You'd probably have much more luck that way. ;)

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com


Well, if drink doesn't explain OotP, I don't know what does, so I'm sure you're quite right. *g*

From: [identity profile] lord-javac.livejournal.com

Apperating House Elves


I was highly disturbed b the apperating house elves. If it's impossible for anyone to apperate inside Hogwarts, without special dispensation, then why can the house elves do it? Furthermore, if the house elves CAN do it, why couldn't they be used for nefarious purposes like killing Harry? I'm not entirely convinced Dumbledore's dead especially after his speech to Draco about faking his death. Could DD be faking his death? Could Sirius be faking? On the other hand, it'd cheapen things to bring either of them back. Well, I'll stop now, but I just thought I'd toss in my two cents.

P.S. Hi channonyarrow.

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com

Re: Apperating House Elves


OMG *glomps teh [livejournal.com profile] lordjavac! We need to talk - I haven't talked to you in too many yonks.

But the thing with the house-elves - they can apparate at Hogwarts and always have been able to. I THINK, though I am not positive, that DD told Harry, when Dobby was brought into the whole picture in CoS that the elves' "apparation" wasn't truly Apparation as done by the wizards, so it's not exempt under the wards. Or something similar. Because bear in mind, they can apparate all that food, too.

But yeah - it would be so nice to have Lucius have sent a house-elf to kill Harry back about book three. Though that's what I mean about Rowling playing cover-your-ass-fu - she really doesn't know where she's going to wind up.

If Sirius comes back, I will be pissed. That was the most pointless char ever, in a series of pointless chars. But I'm really hoping that DD is going to stay dead and that he was asking Snape to kill him because a) the pain and b) Harry needed another love-sacrifice and another reason to hunt down Voldie.

I hope it's not another three years to the next book.

From: [identity profile] graeae.livejournal.com


Well, if Harry is Voldemort's horcrux, this fits in perfectly well with the prophecy as, by destroying Harry, if Harry is the last horcrux, then Voldemort effectively defeats himself as well, doesn't he? But I don't think it'll be Snape somehow.. I think Snape might come back as a good guy in the end because she spent way too much time building him up as an ambiguous figure to just drop it now. And I simply don't think that Rowling is that clever nor is her intended audience- she is, after all, writing for 14 year olds here, no matter how much Potter gamers would like to forget that.

And as far as Malfoy being Marked, I bet she'll screw up on that, say he's been marked since this book but whip out some new spell or plot device to explain why no one noticed, a la Thestrals.

Crabbe/Goyle? Awwwwwwww yeah. I got your Crabbe love right here.

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com


Oh, I think Snape will turn out to be a good guy, but I'm hoping that Harry's Snape's Horcrux, because otherwise, I think Snape is going to die, and I'm too committed to my view of Slytherins as actually somewhat clever (and Snape in particular) to believe that he could get boxed in like that, and easily killed. It would be absolutely what everyone expects for Snape to die, and I'd like Rowling to be a LITTLE less cliche. So far, she's been less cliche than I thought she would about who she killed off previously.

And of course she will. I'm glad I'm not the only one that bugged - Harry should have been able to see Thestrals since DAY ONE because of Lily, but NOOO, ROWLING SUCKS.

Yeah. I got some Crabbe love right here too. It's in a real small box.

From: [identity profile] jkivela.livejournal.com


I agree with the RAB point. Not sure about Snape, never went that direction myself. I'll have to think on it.

And I sooo love Blaise :)

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com


Blaise sounded really cool. You haven't really played in NMT yet - are you going to change stuff or no?

From: [identity profile] jkivela.livejournal.com


Well, I'm going to use the fact that his mom as been through many husbands, and make it that he is spoiled by her. But the rest is close to how I play him anyway. I've RPed with Pansy and am in one with Draco (but with Calli off for a bit, it's stalled). Wanna have him and Theo met up? I'd be game. Need to find more evil people to play with :)

What do you think the bacvkstory is bewteen our evil boys? And boy... will Blaise be pissy about Thoo/Draco :P

From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com


Hm...I don't know what the backstory could be. I'm playing Theo as fairly single-minded in his goal of being a DE, and there's a heavy backstory coming up with Draco and Theo that's going to define their past and a fair bit of Theo's experience at school, but it's still sort of murky yet as to how he would be with another Slytherin.

I'm not sure how Blaise fits with Pansy? Ten and I have been playing Pansy and Theo as best friends since school, so I imagine that Pansy's relationship to Blaise (I already know Blaise's to Draco, *veg*) is going to determine some of it. Ping or email me and we can chat about it, or send me a start and we'll go from there.
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